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Tuesday, August 30, 2005

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OK I grew the stuff that looks like what you have photographed above. It is the most vile thing I have ever put in my mouth!!!!

There seems to be some confusion between papalo known also as "papaloquelite" and papalo also known as "pepicha" the latter being the one I HATE.
Photos show two very different-lookibng plants.

Latin nomenclature is of no help as both plants appear to have the same name.

What gives????

Hi, Sara. The one we have is "papalo" which is also known as "papaloquelite". I don't know about "pepicha". It could well be a different plant or it could be another regional name for the same one. It can be confusing since it's not only the case that sometimes the same plant is called differently in another region. The reverse also happens: sometimes different regions use the same name for different plants.

I have learned some more: Porophyllum ruderale is the plant pictured above that I find so highly objectionable.
There is another plant, porophyllum tagetoides, aka pepicha that looks kind of like tarragon (grassy and wispy) and also is touted to taste like cilantro.
Of course I can find no one who sells the seeds.... drat.
My goal, since the beginning of this search, is to find a cilantro substitute that does not bolt in hot weather... I'll keep looking...

Sara,

If you end up getting the pepicha seeds, please let us know. I would love to try it too. I doubt we'll grow the papalo next year. Now that we had more tasters I can report that a few like it, but the vast majority doesn't.

Our Johnnys catalog (www.johnnyseeds.com) includes seeds for an herb they call "culantro," which they also identify as "spiny coriander", "ngo gai" and "recao". It's supposed to grow well in the summer under shady conditions and have the flaver of cilantro. It sounds like something you might want to try.

papalo is the one in the picture, green leaves, soft and delicious,

pepicha is the one that tastes like cilantro, i love them, i know many other plants from where i am from but, i don't have the scientific names,
any ? email me,

Sara,

Last year I found some Vietnamese Coriander and thought is was a great substitute for cilantro. It lasted the whole warm season. I used it a lot in fresh salsa. The Papalo works great too, but the taste is a little...off. I tried culantra and didn't work well at all, but have heard it is nice in chili and bean dishes.

Sincerely,
John

Hi all,
We got the garlic last week and it was so moist. Delicious of course but I am wondering if we are supposed to store the new, moist garlic different from the dried variety that I usually come across.

Thx

porophyllum tagetoides also known as chepiche is wonderful. It is very different in look from the papalo pictured above, more wispy in appearance. I ate some in salsa in Acapulco. I'd love to find a seed source.

Where did you get the papalo seeds? My husband is a fabulous cook from Mexico City and we have a wonderful garden - all we need is to find out where we can get papalo seeds.
Thank you for your help with this!
Susana y Sergio

My english isn't the best, but hoppe you can understand my info.
Pápalo mean "in direction to butterfly place", come from papalotl=butterfly. In this direction you can find a recept (in spanish)
http://www.oncetv-ipn.net/rincon/nuevo/menu41_b.htm.
The use of this plant is very normal when you eat tacos, you pun in inside like a lettuce (don't put a lot), or use like garden cress. If I find other recept, I will try to traslate it and will put here.

I grew up eating papalo. The best way to eat it is raw, with your everyday meal... in sandwiches or in tortas (Mexican sandwiches)...

Papalo is called quirquiña in Bolivia. It is eaten in a simple salsa called "llajwa", made of tomatoes, hot chili peppers, quirquiña and salt. The herb makes all the difference in the salsa, which is used in soups, sandwiches, as a sauce, etc. Bolivians put llajwa in almost everything. I’ll run to the closest Mexican market to see if they have papalo (and if it is really like quirquiña).

I'm looking for papalo and pichalo (chepiche) seeds, too, and looks like these nurseries have papalo seeds:
Nichols Garden Nursery (oregon)
magicgardenseeds.com
ecoseeds.com
Johnny's Selected Seeds
sandhillpreservation.com

magicgardenseeds is in Bavaria, but prices are in U.S. dollars.

The papalo at ecoseeds.com is described as long-leaved, so it may be quepiche (Porophyllum tagetoides).

I came to love papalo in Puebla, Mexico where it is used as the crowning touch on a huge overstuffed sandwich called a cemita (cheese, avacado, chiles and either breaded pork or Mexican barbacoa.
But papalo is definitely one of those love it or hate it foods. Some of my friends can't even stand the smell of it, let alone the taste. Their loss!

I found papalo this year at the farmers market. It is divine, smells like cilantro and citrus. I used it to make fresh mango salsa and on tacos.

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